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Post by lynxlady on Mar 27, 2011 19:39:23 GMT -8
I would like to explain the difference between the Highland Lynx and the real true Desert Lynx. Approximately 15 years ago a man named Joe Childers, owner of Timberline Cattery and the Rare & Exotic Feline Registry ( REFR) wanted to develop a new breed of cat, with folded ears. He took the Desert Lynx and bred it with a Scottish Fold cat. That is where the name "Highland" came from, the Scottish highlands. The kittens with folded ears he placed in his registry ( REFR) ( Rare & Exotic Feline Registry) as a Highland Lynx, the kittens with straight ears he threw back in his registry to call them a Desert Lynx. Any breeder will tell you that this is not an ethical practice. They should not have been registered as a pure bred Desert Lynx but a mixed breed and called some thing else other than a Desert Lynx, as they no longer meet the criteria or rules of the Desert Lynx standard. This is the reason standards are set and must be fallowed in any breed. This gentleman went on to mix in the British Fold, Bengal, Calico's and so forth to develop the Highland Lynx. All the kittens from this mixture, he did not deem right for his new breed (whether color, straight ears, etc ..) were again put in his registry as a Desert Lynx. (Again against the rules & why standards are important). Those resulting kittens whether straight eared or curled should have been given a new breed name with each additional breed he mixed in, instead of breaking the rules of the original Desert Lynx standard. Evidently he finally settled on the mixture of Jungle Curl along with whatever throw away mixture he had developed over the years along the way and registered as a Desert Lynx, while developing his Highland Lynx breed. None of the breeds he used are excepted with in the true Desert Lynx breed standard. To put it in laymen words, you can not breed a Boxer with a Doberman and then register the one's that look like a Boxer with AKC as a pure bred Boxer dog.. it is not, it is a mixed breed, the same with the pup's that may look like a Doberman can not be registered as a Doberman. To keep breeding different dog breeds with one of the mixes only further dilutes the original breed. If you then take these mixed breed pups and want to develop a new breed, you must then call it a new breed name, not sold as a Doberman or a Boxer. New rules and a new standard should be developed to except the new breed and perhaps called a Boxermen and drop the original breed name of Doberman or Boxer. The temperament and personality of a true original Desert Lynx is vastly different then what has been developed by this unethical practice. The original breeds used to develop the real Desert Lynx were chosen to not only have the look of the bobcat, but when combined, have the wonderful dog like personality. The Desert Lynx breed has a standard. This standard was made 20 years ago by ethical breeders and stands the same today with The International Desert Lynx Cat Association. None of the breeds used in the development of the Highland Lynx are allowed in the Desert Lynx breed. None of the breeds used to develop the Highland Lynx have the personality of a true Desert Lynx. What should have been done by this man while developing his new Highland Lynx breed is to have registered the kittens with straight ears as straight eared Highland Lynx, or given a new breed name, not register them as a Desert Lynx. The real Desert Lynx is registered with IPCBA, they are a ethical registry that verify the breed as to the standard created for it. Thus insuring that people get what they pay for, and are not deceived. So after so many years and so many different breeds used to develop the Highland lynx, what other breeders are calling and selling as a Desert Lynx, is no longer anything like the original breed. I know that some breeders may be unaware of the fact that they do not have Desert Lynx, or even what the original standard rules are and were, so they continue to sell mixed breed kittens bred to Jungle Curl with straight ears as a Desert Lynx. Don't be fooled, ask before you buy if the kitten is registered with the IPCBA or with REFR.. if registered with REFR it is not a true Desert Lynx, it's some ones straight eared Highland Lynx mix ... marketed as Desert Lynx.
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Post by Jackie on Mar 27, 2011 21:44:57 GMT -8
So Arlene....are you willing to sell a female cat to one owner and a male cat to another and those 2 owners could breed those cats for future DL's???
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Post by Dan on Mar 28, 2011 9:27:38 GMT -8
Great Information, Arlene! Thread is now pinned to top...
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Post by lynxlady on Mar 28, 2011 14:33:47 GMT -8
Well, Jackie.. so many have tried to breed the real Desert Lynx but there is so much involved with it they usually just give up. Then they have cat's that spray and don't make a good house pet any longer. There is more to it then just a male and female.. I have had several cats that grew up to be sterile, then what do you do with them? Can't keep them in the house and unless you have a good cattery facility they become out side cat's that will wonder off to find a house, but never do. I have sold to breeders before and they only keep them for a while then sell them to the next and so n.. just breaks my heart. I bred MeMe 5 times to Bear before she got preg this time.. almost had her spayed but had her blood type and chromozome count checked and it didn't match the male I wanted to breed her to so after a quick change of males ( from Bear to Monster) she is now going to have her first litter..there is also knowing the lethal genes and how to breed them and still get healthy kittens and not fadding kitten synrome or deformaties .. so much involved in it.. that is why I'm the only one left.. I also have to deal with people's preferences, the most poplular is the male so what do you do with all the female kittens?? I kept them.. how many people are willing to do that? There is so much that I don't think people even understand.. breeding a hybred is not like breedeing a domestis cat.. it's very difficult.
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Post by Jackie on Mar 28, 2011 18:51:55 GMT -8
I see what you mean Arlene...especially about the lethal genes. I fancied the idea of breeding for ONE day then remembered that you told me how you sit in each castle (Kings then Queens) and read a book while your babies got some love. And yes, I agree about not having a nice house pet after their days of breeding are over. You know I'm a HUGE advocate for your breed and in the future I know you will keep me in the loop for any kitten that isn't spoken for. Heck...as you know...Ron and I will take him/her if we can't find anyone else. I know how attached you get to the ones left behind but really....what if one of us wanted one of those??? I remember Kim expressing sadness when we decided to take Blue. We are all here to spread the news about any new kittens that are born from her on in. Thanks again and again Dan!!! If we are not looking for one....who better to be the a second judge to find them a purrrrfect owner! I already have a line up for who gets what kitty if Ron n I get hit by a bus for goodness sake So MeMe is expecting!!! Congrats!!! How many deposits do you have??? If you attached a picture of mom and dad on a new thread I can advertise for you...FREE!!! You know Ron always wants an excuse to go to the states and we actually are thinking of a trip down south to purchase items for our new home. Love being in touch with you....say Hello to Kim for us <3
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Post by lynxlady on Mar 29, 2011 18:03:56 GMT -8
I think the worst part is giving them up.. especially when I have to ship them some where, that breaks my heart.. I do get very attached to them.. even the one's no one wants, either not the sex they wanted or the color.. always a few that are not just right for them.. that is untill they grow up and they see them here, then they want them.. well it's too late.. I had a hard time giving up Gizmo as he was here for longer then the others.. I already have one lady who is passing on this litter because she wanted the Clouded Leopard but the man in line before her chose him.. see what I mean, so she is hoping for the ''perfect'' kitty in the next litter of MeMe's.. to me thay are all perfect :-)
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Post by lynxlady on Mar 29, 2011 18:05:06 GMT -8
Forgot, you better stop by and see us Jackie if you are coming this way .. you never know what I may have left over LOL!!!
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Post by ron on Mar 30, 2011 8:29:00 GMT -8
What the heck...May as well take one of Kim's babies home too
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Post by lynxlady on Mar 30, 2011 10:58:24 GMT -8
Ok, so Jackie and Ron already know how confused I can get :-) But I said I had Giz the longest and it was Oliver that I got so attached to because Deb couldn't pick him up untill after Xmas.. sigh.. You could tell the story of me sending you the wrong pictures of Emma Jackie, and then thinking YOU were a weird-o :-) Ok, sure Ron, a puppy and a horse your next trip :-)
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Post by Jackie on Mar 31, 2011 18:42:28 GMT -8
Oh Arlene....You're too hard on yourself. But what's funny is you corrected the name of the kitty but got the wrong owner...Sherri owns Oliver :/ Yes...there was a time that Arlene had sent her weekly photo and sent me a picture of Habib. So I looked and looked and he just didn't look like Emma? Even though I sounded daft, I emailed her and asked if their spots actually change???\ Hahahaha...well she was talking to Kim saying to him that she just could not understand how I would not recognise my own baby! Funny story. All in good fun Arlene.
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Post by lynxlady on Mar 31, 2011 19:21:36 GMT -8
I know Jackie, I did it again.. I remembered I had the wrong owner this time after I changed the kitten name..oh well.. man it's the pit's getting old and so forgetful !! Maybe it is time for me to retire :-) I'm of coarse distracted with the new babies to play with and Meme so close to due date.. just been sleeping with one eye open.. another part of breeding.. Hay Dan, where is the spell check???
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Post by Dan on Apr 1, 2011 9:38:39 GMT -8
Hay Dan, where is the spell check??? Well, depending on the software you are running it's included. Before you hit Post Reply, look at what you've typed. If a word has a little red squiggly line under it, it's misspelled. Right click on the word, and a list of replacement words will pop up. Click on the one you want, and it will replace the misspelled word... There is also a Spell Check button just to the right of Post Reply...
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Post by Jackie on Apr 1, 2011 10:40:13 GMT -8
Those features aren't offered in Quick Reply Arlene....fyi
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Post by Dan on Apr 1, 2011 11:02:26 GMT -8
quik repy, quick reply...
The red squiggly lines are. At least on mine they show up???
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Post by lynxlady on Apr 2, 2011 17:12:04 GMT -8
Nope, no squigly red lines.. but it's ok.. I guess people will be able to figure out what I'm saying, if they care what I'm saying :-) I tried to post new pictures of the 2 week old kids but can't figure out how to post more then one at a time.. I use a old floppy disk camera :-)
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